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		<title>Two songs</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heidi pointed out these songs a couple of days ago, and they&#8217;ve been haunting me (in a good way) ever since.  Two completely different styles,  both  full of incredible energy and emotion.  See what you think&#8230;
I Can Hear the Rhythm by Misty Edwards

The More I Seek You sung by Kari Jobe

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://tobeafool.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">Heidi</a> pointed out these songs a couple of days ago, and they&#8217;ve been haunting me (in a good way) ever since.  Two completely different styles,  both  full of incredible energy and emotion.  See what you think&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>I Can Hear the Rhythm</strong> by Misty Edwards<br />
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<p><strong>The More I Seek You</strong> sung by Kari Jobe<br />
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		<title>The growing gap between seminaries and churches</title>
		<link>http://joel.fouse.net/2008/03/11/the-growing-gap-between-seminaries-and-churches/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 01:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jonathan Walton over at Religion Dispatches Blog turns a critical eye to seminaries and churches, and how more and more they seem to inhabit completely different worlds.  Good thoughts, and challenging.  At first glance it may not seem relevant to the everyday layperson, but it seems to me we could all stand to be (and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan Walton over at Religion Dispatches Blog <a href="http://religiondispatches.org/Gui/Content.aspx?Page=BL&amp;Id=116" target="_blank">turns a critical eye to seminaries and churches</a>, and how more and more they seem to inhabit completely different worlds.  Good thoughts, and challenging.  At first glance it may not seem relevant to the everyday layperson, but it seems to me we could all stand to be (and seek) a little less PowerPoint and MySpace and a little more deep and grounded truth.</p>
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		<title>Waiting for them to come home</title>
		<link>http://joel.fouse.net/2007/06/06/waiting-for-them-to-come-home/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 06:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we got some exciting news the other day about our Ethiopian adoption: our court date was successful!  We are now the proud parents of two more children!  As those of you who&#8217;ve been faithfully following my non-existent posts (*ahem*) already know, the court date is one of the final steps to happen before bringing your children home.  Really, it&#8217;s the first time you can truly refer to them as <i>your</i> children.  Up to that point, anything can change at anytime for any number of reasons.  But once the judge in Ethiopia has approved your petition, the children are legally yours.  Unfortunately, though, you can&#8217;t just go pick them up and bring them home.  They need immigration visas, which means they need to be seen at the US Embassy, which means you have to wait for another date to be assigned.  Once that date comes up, <i>then</i> you fly across the ocean to pick them up and hold them and be with them even though they may not fully understand yet quite what&#8217;s going on, and you take them to the Embassy and hang out for a few days to make sure everything&#8217;s copacetic, and then you bring them home and there is much rejoicing.</p>
<p>Until that point, though, we&#8217;re stuck in this mind-bending limbo.  To be sure, the process &#8212; <i>any</i> international adoption process, for that matter, and quite possibly a good bit of domestic as well &#8212; is almost defined by periods of limbo.  You get a bunch of documentation together and then wait for your homestudy.  You get all the homestudy visits done and then wait for the final product.  You get more documentation together and then send in your dossier, and wait for a referral.  You accept the referral and then wait for the kids to be moved to the care center.  Etc., etc.  It&#8217;s just the nature of the process.  But this particular limbo, by its very nature, feels the most awkward to me if not flat-out wrong.  Not that anyone&#8217;s doing something wrong, or isn&#8217;t doing what they should &#8212; not that sort of wrong.  But&#8230;well, here&#8217;s the deal.  I&#8217;m a parent, right?  Been one for over five years now, three times over before this adoption, and while that&#8217;s not &#8220;long&#8221; by parenting standards and I make no claims to having parenting all figured out, I at least can say that I have the parent mentality somewhat figured out.  I love my kids, I want what&#8217;s best for them, I want to provide for them, etc., etc.  Not that I&#8217;m making light of it, but it&#8217;s all the sorts of things any half-decent parent would readily say about their kids.  And what would any half-decent parent do if a couple of their kids were suddenly stuck halfway around the world and needed to get home?  You&#8217;d do whatever you had to do, make whatever arrangements you had to make, sparing no expense, to make sure they could get home or you&#8217;d go and get them yourself, right?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s where I am.  I now have two children halfway around the world, and I want to bring them home.  But I can&#8217;t, because it&#8217;s not time yet.  And that&#8217;s what just feels wrong.  Even though they don&#8217;t understand it, even though they know nothing about me yet except a single photo I&#8217;m hoping they saw today, I&#8217;m their Dad now.  But I&#8217;m here and they&#8217;re way over there, and I can&#8217;t fix that.  It&#8217;s not time yet.</p>
<p>I was telling one of our pastors about this on Sunday after worship, about how it just feels weird to suddenly have two more kids and not be able to go get them and bring them home, and his comment became a trigger to a deeper realization for me.  He nodded in understanding of what I was trying to convey, and then he said, &#8220;You know, God knows exactly how you feel.  He has children all over the world&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>And suddenly it hit me.  It hit me so hard I couldn&#8217;t help but blurt it out even as I was still grasping its reality:  &#8220;And he wants to bring them home!&#8221;  Now I&#8217;m not talking about &#8220;coming home&#8221; as in believers dying.  I&#8217;m talking about people who are incredibly loved by God and don&#8217;t even know it yet.  People who have no idea how much He loves them and wants them to come home to Him.  People who don&#8217;t understand how much He paid to give them a way to do that, no matter how far away they are now.</p>
<p>Is that you?  Please come home.  He loves you so much, and can&#8217;t wait to pick you up and hold you and be with you.  The ticket&#8217;s already paid for, in full.  You just have to get on the plane.</p>
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		<title>Submission as part of ministry</title>
		<link>http://joel.fouse.net/2007/05/31/submission-as-part-of-ministry/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 15:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kerry over at the Voice of the Orphan has a <a href="http://voiceoftheorphan.typepad.com/weblog/2007/05/prayer_praise_a.html" target="_new">good post</a> on the place of submission in God&#8217;s order, and the effect its absence can have on ministry.</p>
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		<title>Prayer</title>
		<link>http://joel.fouse.net/2007/05/30/prayer/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 15:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Lord Jesus, I come to Thee for spiritual preparation.  Lay Thy hand upon me.  Anoint me with the oil of the New Testament prophet.  Forbid that I should become a religious scribe and thus lose my prophetic calling.  Save me from the curse that lies dark across the face of the modern clergy, the curse of compromise, of imitation, of professionalism.  Save me from the error of judging a church by its size, its popularity or the amount of its yearly offerings.  Help me to remember that I am a prophet &#8212; not a promoter, not a religious manager, but a prophet.  Let me never become a slave to crowds.  Heal my soul of carnal ambitions and deliver me from the itch for publicity.  Save me from bondage to things.  Let me not waste my days puttering around the house.  Lay Thy terror upon me, O God, and drive me to the place of prayer where I may wrestle with principalities and powers and the rulers of the darkness of this world.  Deliver me from overeating and late sleeping.  Teach me self-discipline that I may be a good soldier of Jesus Christ.<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I accept hard work and small rewards in this life.  I ask for no easy place.  I shall try to be blind to the little ways that could make my life easier.  If others seek the smoother path, I shall try to take the hard way without judging them too harshly.  I shall accept opposition and try to take it quietly when it comes.  Or if, as sometimes it falleth out to Thy servants, I should have grateful gifts pressed upon me by Thy kindly people, stand by me then and save me from the blight that often follows.  Teach me to use whatever I receive in such manner that it will not injure my soul or diminish my spiritual power.</p></blockquote>
<p>- <a href="http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/easy_find?Ntk=author&#038;Ntt=A.W.Tozer&#038;action=Search&#038;nav_search=1" target="_new">A.W. Tozer</a>, in prayer for his ordination to Christian ministry, August 18, 1920<br />
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		<title>Bono gets his preach on</title>
		<link>http://joel.fouse.net/2007/03/22/bono-gets-his-preach-on/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bono&#8217;s acceptance speech at the NAACP Image Awards a few weeks ago.  Definitely worth a watch or three, especially at the end&#8230;</p>
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<p>&#8220;&#8216;Love thy neighbor&#8217; is not a piece of advice&#8230;&#8221;  Great stuff&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Ground rules for The Debate</title>
		<link>http://joel.fouse.net/2007/03/15/ground-rules-for-the-debate/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just came across a <a href="http://www.xanga.com/somehownotsingle/574875327/item.html" target="_new">list of ground rules</a> some guy came up with (I&#8217;m guessing the result of direct experience) for anyone on either side of a debate on Christianity.  This should be required reading for anyone considering stepping in the ring&#8230;</p>
<p>(H/T: <a href="http://thinkchristian.net" target="_new">ThinkChristian</a>)</p>
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		<title>&#8220;Lost Tomb&#8221; shouldn&#8217;t be a lost opportunity</title>
		<link>http://joel.fouse.net/2007/03/07/lost-tomb-shouldnt-be-a-lost-opportunity/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg Kouki of Stand to Reason writes a <a href="http://www.townhall.com/columnists/column.aspx?UrlTitle=wailing_at_the_tomb&#038;ns=GregoryKoukl&#038;dt=03/04/2007&#038;page=1" target="_new">pretty compelling response</a> both to James Cameron&#8217;s Discovery Channel piece about  the &#8220;Lost Tomb of Jesus&#8221; <i>and</i> to believers who immediately got their teeth a-gnashing at the very suggestion:</p>
<blockquote><p>Look, if the Bible says it and you believe it, that might settle it for you, but it doesnt settle it for millions who might be interested in your ideas and are waiting to hear a thoughtful response to what appears on the surface to be a fair challenge. [...] There are good reasons to doubt the conclusions of this documentary, but no one will ever know them if Christians pull up the drawbridge and bellow from the parapet.</p></blockquote>
<p>Greg goes on to list several critical responses to the show&#8217;s thesis (if you can call it that).  Well worth a read.</p>
<p>(H/T <a href="http://thepoint.breakpoint.org/" target="_new">The Point</a>)</p>
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		<title>God in ancient China?</title>
		<link>http://joel.fouse.net/2007/03/07/god-in-ancient-china/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating review over at <a href="http://www.ttf.org/index/journal/" target="_new">Implications</a> (from the Trinity Forum) of a book suggesting that before the influences of Buddhism, Christianity, or Islam, ancient China had an understanding of (and respect for) a monotheistic, sustaining creator God with moral attributes strikingly similar to Israel&#8217;s Yahweh, in direct contradiction to the general assumption that Christianity is solely a western religion.  <a href="http://www.ttf.org/index/journal/detail/faith-in-the-creator/" target="_new">Check it out</a>.</p>
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		<title>Vedat Update</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;ve been wondering what&#8217;s been happening with Vedat, the Serbian boy we brought over for surgery on his back, <a href="http://cbcva.org/vedat" target="_new">check here</a> for the latest.  God is faithful, and there is no doubt in my mind he has plans for this boy!</p>
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